Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 16:00:39 -0400
Reply-To: "Hadden, Susan [PRDUS]" <SHADDEN**At_Symbol_Here**ITS.JNJ.COM>
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From: "Hadden, Susan [PRDUS]" <SHADDEN**At_Symbol_Here**ITS.JNJ.COM>
Subject: FW: [DCHAS-L] Best Practices for Students in Industrial Labs

Forgive me for revisiting this topic.

I am interested in learning how other INDUSTRIAL sites manage the issue 
of visiting minors in labs. If anyone from an industrial environment 
would like to share their programs (summary only is fine) or their 
challenges, I would appreciate the info.
(Not intending to discriminate against academia but you're sort of 
designed to handle this population.)

-----Original Message-----
From: DCHAS-L Discussion List [mailto:DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**list.uvm.edu]On Behalf Of
Laurence Doemeny
Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 8:08 PM
To: DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**LIST.UVM.EDU
Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] Best Practices for Students in Industrial Labs

Here is how NIH does it:

Here is their general web site:

 

http://dohs.ors.od.nih.gov/student_labtraining.htm

 

and the link that has information on restrictions:

 

http://dohs.ors.od.nih.gov/student_minors.htm

 

I would think that the institution where the student works would be 
required
to take that institution's safety training before being allowed to work 
in
the laboratory.

-----Original Message-----
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Dr.
Jay A. Young
Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 1:11 PM
To: DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**LIST.UVM.EDU
Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] Best Practices for Students in Industrial Labs

Ralph,

The ACS program, "Project Seed" specifically allows, and pays a small 
salary

to students who help out, and learn some chemistry, in real labs under 
the 
supervision of an experienced mentor.  The basic idea is two-fold, help 
deserving students earn a little money and perhaps recruit new minds 
into 
becoming candidates for the next Nobel in chemistry.

Jay

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ralph Stuart" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 10:30 AM
Subject: [DCHAS-L] Best Practices for Students in Industrial Labs

>A DCHAS-L member who preferred to ask this question anonymously asked  
me 
>to post this...
>
> - Ralph
>
> Our industrial laboratory has previously allowed high school students 
> (under age 18) to shadow researchers in the laboratory.  The parents  
must

> sign a release form to allow emergency medical treatment and  disclose 
any

> prescription medications the student is currently  taking.  There is a 

> lengthy and serious safety presentation with the  students and their 
> mentors prior to entering the lab.  The students  are allowed to 
observe 
> low risk experiments, e.g., room temperature  reactions, pipeting 
non-BBP 
> materials into multi-well plates, use of  microscopes and surface 
analysis

> equipment and HPLC's, etc.  The  students are not allowed into high 
hazard

> areas such as hazardous drug  labs or to observe experiments that 
involve 
> pyrophoric reagents  (hydrides, etc.).  The mentor must accompany the 
> student in the  laboratory 100% of the time.
>
> We have had a recent request from management to allow a high school 
> student (< 18 years old) to actually conduct experiments in our  
research 
> laboratory during the summer.  Do any industrial labs allow  high 
school 
> students to participate in a summer research project?   What are the 
> limitations?  Do you have any guidelines to share?
>
> We have considered having a local university allow the student to work 
 in

> their lab and our company sponsor the project.
> 

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