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Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2010 16:37:37 -0500
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Given that it is Friday afternoon, I'll share my starting fluid story as
well. One summer during my college career (many years ago) I had a job at
a stone quarry which employed quite a variety of interesting people (it
was also fun because we got to "play" with dynamite, primacord, ammonium
nitrate, etc.). The guy that routinely drove the 980 Cat payloader and
loaded the dumptrucks was a rather grizzled, and weathered fellow (his
name was Muggs), and although he was only in his late 40s, he had no
teeth, nor did he wear dentures.
Of course the 980 Cat had a diesel engine which occasionally required the
benefit of starting fluid, so a can was always in the cab. I was told that
a few years earlier when he still had a few rotting teeth, he had a
particularly bad toothache one day. Although Muggs had only a rudimentary
education, he did posses a certain level of, shall we say, "field
expediency" (you may already see where this is heading). When the pain
reached the point where it was unbearable he availed himself of the can
of starter fluid, pulled back his cheek with his finger, and sprayed a
healthy dose on to the offending tooth. Despite being well below medical
grade, it was apparently efficacious. Muggs exclaimed, "Yah, it didn't
taste very good, but that (expletive, expletive) tooth stopped hurtin'
right now!"
I'll end with one admonition and one observation. Although this treatment
was effective for Muggs, I highly discourage anyone from attempting the
same (not that I think you would). And whether or not it was a conscious
decision on Muggs part, it's a good thing his normally, ever-present, (and
hand-rolled) cigarette wasn't in the vicinity when he self-treated his
toothache.
Have a safe weekend!
"Yarrow, Gary"
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Must be Friday afternoon?.I still use it in my snow blower (as an
aerosol).
Ether in the glove compartment brings back memories of ?Fear and Loathing
in Las Vegas? by Hunter Thompson???never trust a man in the midst of an
ether binge!??those that have read it will understand.
I remember the blue flames also, but coming out of a 1970 or so VW Bug!
Lost my facial hair (including eyebrows) once there!
Gary
Dr. Gary L. Yarrow, Director
Environmental Health & Safety
Shepard Hall 059; Bldg 2202
South Dakota State University
Brookings, SD 5700-7-0896
605-688-6332
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William Hirzy
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Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] Ether - Motor Priming Grade
Back in the day, when I worked in the lab and had access and drove a 1959
Volvo in the frigid midwestern winter, parking on the street, I would take
the battery out, bring it inside to keep warm for the next morning, then
re-install it, pour about 10 mL of diethyl ether onto the strangely
vertical carbeurator air filter, and that baby fired right up every
day--no problem........Then one night a cop stopped me because I had a
tail light out, some heavy anti-war literature stuck all over the trunk,
and quite a pony-tail and full beard. He looked at me, and then into the
glove compartment where I kept the ether (didn't want it in the apartment)
and almost busted me for having it. After I explained it, he relaxed, but
still gave me a ticket for the tail light................Petroleum ether
might have worked as well, but, but that diethyl variety sure did the
trick!
J. William Hirzy, Ph.D.
Chemist In Residence
Phone: 202-885-1780
WronaT**At_Symbol_Here**USA.REDCROSS.ORG
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Jerilyn,
My experience with "ether" used for motor starting (AKA starting fluid)
is usually a composition of petroleum "ether" which is typically but not
necessarily an ether as we chemists know it, but is really a composition
of short chain aromatic and aliphatic hydrocarbons. This material is
typically used in starting diesel engines that lack glow plugs in cold
climates.
Thomas Wrona
Equipment Systems Manager
Radiation and Chemical Safety Officer
Southeastern Michigan Location
Ohio Michigan Division
Office Phone: 313 494-2894
Facsimile: 313 833-2799
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Subject: [DCHAS-L] Ether - Motor Priming Grade
Does anyone have any information on Humco Laboratories Ether Motor
Priming Grade? We are working on moving to a new building and it was
found in a cabinet. All it says is "ether", but I am not familiar with
motor priming grade. I am treating with extreme caution. Any
information would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks.
Jerilyn Roberts
Environmental Health and Safety Director
South Dakota School of Mines and Technology
501 East St. Joseph Street
Rapid City, SD 57701-3995
605 394-6729
605 394-6131 FAX
Jerilyn.Roberts**At_Symbol_Here**sdsmt.edu
Given that it is Friday afternoon, I
'll
share my starting fluid story as well. One summer during my college career
(many years ago) I had a job at a stone quarry which employed quite a varie
ty
of interesting people (it was also fun because we got to "play"
with dynamite, primacord, ammonium nitrate, etc.). The guy that routinely
drove the 980 Cat payloader and loaded the dumptrucks was a rather grizzled,
and weathered fellow (his name was Muggs), and although he was only in
his late 40s, he had no teeth, nor did he wear dentures.
Of course the 980 Cat had a diesel e
ngine
which occasionally required the benefit of starting fluid, so a can was
always in the cab. I was told that a few years earlier when he still had
a few rotting teeth, he had a particularly bad toothache one day. Although
Muggs had only a rudimentary education, he did posses a certain level of,
shall we say, "field expediency" (you may already see where this
is heading). When the pain reached the point where it was unbearable
he availed himself of the can of starter fluid, pulled back his cheek with
his finger, and sprayed a healthy dose on to the offending tooth. Despite
being well below medical grade, it was apparently efficacious. Muggs exclai
med,
"Yah, it didn't taste very good, but that (expletive, expletive) tooth
stopped hurtin' right now!"
I'll end with one admonition and one
observation. Although this treatment was effective for Muggs, I highly
discourage anyone from attempting the same (not that I think you would).
And whether or not it was a conscious decision on Muggs part, it's a good
thing his normally, ever-present, (and hand-rolled) cigarette wasn't in
the vicinity when he self-treated his toothache.
Have a safe weekend!
"Yarrow, Gary&qu
ot;
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Must be Friday afternoo
n….I
still use it in my snow blower (as an aerosol).
Ether in the glove comp
artment
brings back memories of “Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas” by Hun
ter Thompson……”never
trust a man in the midst of an ether binge!”…those that have re
ad it
will understand.
I remember the blue fla
mes
also, but coming out of a 1970 or so VW Bug! Lost my facial hair
(including eyebrows) once there!
Gary
Dr. Gary L. Yarrow,
Director
Environmental Health
&
Safety
Shepard Hall 059; Bl
dg
2202
South Dakota State U
niversity
Brookings, SD
5700-7-0896
605-688-6332
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Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] Ether - Motor Priming Grade
Back in the day, when I worked in the lab and had access and drove a 1959
Volvo in the frigid midwestern winter, parking on the street, I would take
the battery out, bring it inside to keep warm for the next morning, then
re-install it, pour about 10 mL of diethyl ether onto the strangely vertical
carbeurator air filter, and that baby fired right up every day--no problem.
.......Then
one night a cop stopped me because I had a tail light out, some heavy anti-
war
literature stuck all over the trunk, and quite a pony-tail and full beard.
He looked at me, and then into the glove compartment where I kept the ether
(didn't want it in the apartment) and almost busted me for having it. After
I explained it, he relaxed, but still gave me a ticket for the tail light..
..............Petroleum
ether might have worked as well, but, but that diethyl variety sure did
the trick!
J. William Hirzy, Ph.D.
Chemist In Residence
Phone: 202-885-1780
WronaT**At_Symbol_Here**USA.REDCROSS.ORG
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Jerilyn,
My experience with "ether" used for motor starting (AKA starting
fluid)
is usually a composition of petroleum "ether" which is typically
but not
necessarily an ether as we chemists know it, but is really a composition
of short chain aromatic and aliphatic hydrocarbons. This material is
typically used in starting diesel engines that lack glow plugs in cold
climates.
Thomas Wrona
Equipment Systems Manager
Radiation and Chemical Safety Officer
Southeastern Michigan Location
Ohio Michigan Division
Office Phone: 313 494-2894
Facsimile: 313 833-2799
-----Original Message-----
From: DCHAS-L Discussion List [mailto:DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**list.uvm.edu] On Behalf Of
Roberts, Jerilyn C.
Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2010 5:39 PM
To: DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**LIST.UVM.EDU
Subject: [DCHAS-L] Ether - Motor Priming Grade
Does anyone have any information on Humco Laboratories Ether Motor
Priming Grade? We are working on moving to a new building and it
was
found in a cabinet. All it says is "ether", but I am not
familiar with
motor priming grade. I am treating with extreme caution. Any
information would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks.
Jerilyn Roberts
Environmental Health and Safety Director
South Dakota School of Mines and Technology
501 East St. Joseph Street
Rapid City, SD 57701-3995
605 394-6729
605 394-6131 FAX
Jerilyn.Roberts**At_Symbol_Here**sdsmt.edu
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