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There are always so many questions about safety showers and eye washes. I think that we need to have a symposium on themÉ.I will have to remember this for Orlando
From: ACS Division of Chemical Health and Safety [mailto:DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**PRINCETON.EDU]
On Behalf Of Bruce Van Scoy
Sent: Thursday, February 1, 2018 6:07 PM
To: DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**PRINCETON.EDU
Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] Safety Showers, Drains and ADA Compliance
Melissa,
Push for the drains! Show the cost over time of having testing performed at the recommended frequency without them vs. having them. My experience has shown
when the drains were removed due to initial installation costs (proposed as "value engineering"), it wasn't too long after that they were screaming about the frequency of performing flushing/testing. If memory serves, I provided a CDC reference about the
eye-damaging bacteria that reproduce in stagnant pipes with the presence of chlorine. The architects and accountants were not available later to justify or defend their "value engineering" decisions, but the initial construction cost did save a few dollars.
My recommendation is to push for the drains or define accountability standards to apply later, e.g., is installation cost v. recovery in 1-yr or 5-yr?
BruceV
From: ACS Division of Chemical Health and Safety [mailto:DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**PRINCETON.EDU]
On Behalf Of Suzanne Howard
Sent: Thursday, February 1, 2018 10:54 AM
To: DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**PRINCETON.EDU
Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] Safety Showers, Drains and ADA Compliance
Hi Melissa,
We are in the process of designing a new science bldg and was told that we can't have drains for the safety showers and the eyewashes. Our architects state the reason is that the size of the drains would have to be very large.....? They
also indicate that the cost for plumbing is too great. Have not yet decided if EHS should push for drains or not, or, if it is even possible.
Suzanne
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Suzanne Howard
Director EHS
Wellesley College
300 Central Street
Wellesley, MA
781-283-3882
On Thu, Feb 1, 2018 at 10:21 AM, Melissa Anderson <mwanderson08**At_Symbol_Here**gmail.com> wrote:
Greetings Everyone,
We're working with architects right now to plan out chem labs for a new science building. We've asked for drains under the safety showers and were told that wouldn't be possible because in order to be ADA compliant and have drains, the
safety showers would take up too much space- has anyone encountered such an argument?
(Note, we're extremely constrained on space due to some very complicated politics I won't go into here, so making the labs bigger is not an option.)
Thanks,
Melissa Anderson
Instructor
Pasadena City College
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