From: Frankie Wood-Black <fwoodblack90**At_Symbol_Here**GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] Here is another scary demonstration website
Date: Wed, 23 May 2018 08:02:58 -0500
Reply-To: ACS Division of Chemical Health and Safety <DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**PRINCETON.EDU>
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I have already sent an email via their contact link.

Frankie Wood-Black, Ph.D., REM, MBA
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On Wed, May 23, 2018 at 7:58 AM, Samuella Sigmann <sigmannsb**At_Symbol_Here**appstate.edu> wrote:
I am in the review process of an article for J Chem Ed. Experiments from Helmenstine and the ThoughtCo site are being used as examples of demonstrations with poor safety guidance.
Sammye


On 5/23/2018 8:22 AM, Hadden, Susan [JRDUS] wrote:

A quick visit to the website reveals who wrote this article (Anne Marie Helmenstine, PhD), their senior management (Neil Vogel, CEO; Margot Weiss, Gen Mgr; Beatrix Lockwood, Content Mgr), who owns them (see below) and how to contact the company: Email us here contact**At_Symbol_Here**thoughtco..com. I'll bet a Google search of Neil Vogel will turn up a way to contact him directly.

ThoughtCo, a Dotdash brand, is an education website that launched in March of 2017. Dotdash is a trusted media company that has been in operation since 1997 and is part of the IAC family of websites.

If all of us contact them with our concerns (IMO, many of the other demos also have safety issues) and recommended alternatives, perhaps we can influence them.

Didn't see a place to leave public comments or ratings but perhaps one exists.

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Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [DCHAS-L] Here is another scary demonstration website

How do we call the site host out? Surely we can use the ACS clout. Can we get the site closed down?

On Tue, May 22, 2018, 17:23 Noce, Tony <000004c54376f45e-dmarc-request**At_Symbol_Here**lists.princeton.edu> wrote:

"Mix metal salts in alcohol and pour the mixture into a spray bottle. Spritz the liquid onto a flame to change its color. This is a great introduction to the study of emission spectra and flame tests. The colorants are of low toxicity, so this is a safe demonstration."

Yes, toxicity is the only potential hazard-

From: ACS Division of Chemical Health and Safety [mailto:DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**PRINCETON.EDU] On Behalf Of Frankie Wood-Black
Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2018 4:38 PM
To: DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**PRINCETON.EDU
Subject: [DCHAS-L] Here is another scary demonstration website

https://www.thoughtco.com/cool-chemistry-demonstrations-604264


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